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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49   #21
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Shouts/chants/weapon spells are already overpowered for lack of removal, please dont make it worse.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #22
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Shouts/chants/weapon spells are already overpowered for lack of removal, please dont make it worse.
Shouts= Energy Management. The only two shouts that would come close to abuse would be a P/W with "Watch Yourself" "Shields Up" or "Incoming" Which would have to use Enduring Harmony and the "Spear Grip of Charisma" lololololol to obtain about a 6-7second duration and as for the noobs shouting DA!!! Just use the mesmers again. This is why Necromancers have anti-shout hexes and mesmers have diversion.(Hint: The diversion point was to if the "Incoming" 6-7second chain exsisted)

Chants= Most of the decent ones end after one attack.

Weapon Spells= Rit skills and is unrelated to the topic of the thread. Congratulations you have spammed once more on guru to raise your post count.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #23
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Shouts= Energy Management.
Chants= Most of the decent ones end after one attack.
Weapon Spells= Rit skills and is unrelated to the topic of the thread. Congratulations you have spammed once more on guru to raise your post count.

Wow ignorance. You play gvg? No, k I c. You know shields up? Watch yourselves? SoP? SoR? DA? Those are overpowered for sure. Btw what's next? A 20%+20/20?

And ye, I spam guru:P
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People have been asking for +20% stance duration mods as well, and I'm pretty sure that the idea has been dismissed as potentially causing more harm than good for the numerous tweaks to skills that would need to be made.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59   #25
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Wow ignorance. You play gvg? No, k I c. You know shields up? Watch yourselves? SoP? SoR? DA? Those are overpowered for sure. Btw what's next? A 20%+20/20?

And ye, I spam guru:P
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59   #26
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People have been asking for +20% stance duration mods as well, and I'm pretty sure that the idea has been dismissed as potentially causing more harm than good for the numerous tweaks to skills that would need to be made.
+20% frenzy is gd:P (I couldnt leave it out, I like frenzy too much...)

Well said anyway.

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Cant you read that then?

Wow ignorance. You play gvg? No, OkAY I SEE. You know shields up? Watch yourselves? SONG oF PURIFICATION? SONG oF RESTORATION? DEFENSIVE ANTHEM? Those are overpowered for sure. BY tHE wAY what Is next? A 20% LONGER SHOUT/CHANT WHATEVER AND A 20HCT 20HRT?

And yeS, I spam guru:P

Sorry for caps its too point out the bad spelling. I hope you can read it now.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #27
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Cant you read that then?
Learn to use sarcasm. p10x!

Hint: I was making fun of you dumbass. I know what the skill acronyms are and as for your constant bitching about shouts and chants I edited my shorter third post to be longer and I think I covered anything that could/would be abused.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06   #28
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Learn to use sarcasm. p10x!
Hint: I was making fun of you dumbass. I know what the skill acronyms are and as for your constant bitching about shouts and chants I edited my shorter third post to be longer and I think I covered anything that could/would be abused.
Maybe I was using sarcasm? Btw, you are right about the spam though, this is good for count, as much as I care anyway...

I'm not bitching about shouts, they just simply are overpowered. If you had not just play pve and actually play pvp, you might just know that.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08   #29
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Maybe I was using sarcasm? Btw, you are right about the spam though, this is good for count, as much as I care anyway...

I'm not bitching about shouts, they just simply are overpowered. If you had not just play pve and actually play pvp, you might just know that.
I have 8,512 Fame. I Believe that makes me an Illustrious Hero and also a person familiar to PvP and balanced.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10   #30
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I have 8,512 Fame. I Believe that makes me an Illustrious Hero and also a person familiar to PvP and balanced.
There's not a lot of shouts in tombs, there is in GvG. +Ranks dont prove anything so dont be lame plz. And try champion.

Oh by the way, I dont think you will like a 40/40 SoC or a 20% longer Make Haste with 20/20, would you?

And it would actually make fall back to be chained with 2 charactars, wouldnt it?

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17   #31
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Son, listen right quick! THIS IS PVP NOT PVE please get your priorities straight and after that please keep your ignorant unwanted PvE biased opinion to yourself and the other ignorant pvers you call Guildies and Friends.
Learn to read kthnx
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18   #32
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There's not a lot of shouts in tombs, there is in GvG. +Ranks dont prove anything so dont be lame plz. And try champion.

Oh by the way, I dont think you will like a 40/40 SoC or a 20% longer Make Haste with 20/20, would you?
40/40 and 20/20 Were never suggested. Looks like you've run out of shit to bitch about my friend. Why don't you stop now? And as for champ title. Lawls *Goes and joins SoG* *Spikes champ 4* Now please Blow me. (The Joining of SoG and Spiking champ rank was a joke to the moron who seems to think that its exclusively special to "elite" players and that moron should also take in the variable of Guilds being sold and bought before that certain moron thinks that Champ rank is exclusive. Yes, I know that the Hero Title can be swayed and spiked, personally I did Rspike(In Tombs), Bspike with Altar, and then Balanced.)


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What PvP Skill gives someone +80 armour?

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20   #33
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Take it easy.

First of all, do the property affect everyone affected by a skill activated by one equiped with it or only to those whearing the property regardless of who activates the skill? You should know that first before arguing here.

Second, enchantments can be interrupted, prevented and disabled, but shouts can be only prevented and interrupted, so a 10% instead of 20% it's not too much.

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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22   #34
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40/40 and 20/20 Were never suggested. Looks like you've run out of shit to bitch about my friend. Why don't you stop now? And as for champ title. Lawls *Goes and joins SoG* *Spikes champ 4* Now please Blow me. (The Joining of SoG and Spiking champ rank was a joke to the moron who seems to think that its exclusively special to "elite" players and that moron should also take in the variable of Guilds being sold and bought before that certain moron thinks that Champ rank is exclusive. Yes, I know that the Hero Title can be swayed and spiked, personally I did Rspike(In Tombs), Bspike with Altar, and then Balanced.)
I really dont care what you are playing, and ye bspike and rspike are pr0.... cough....

If you have 20% why would you NOT have 40/40 20/20 and all that stuff?
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Eh... he's asking for 10%, not 20%.
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #36
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Take it easy.

First of all, do the duration affect the one that WEARS the property or the one that USES the property? You should know that first before arguing here.

Second, enchantments can be interrupted, prevented and disabled, but shouts can be only prevented and interrupted, so a 10% instead of 20% it's not too much.
Once again Mesmers can handle shouts with a necromancer on the side. And I think you meant shouts can only be prevented.

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I really dont care what you are playing, and ye bspike and rspike are pr0.... cough....

If you have 20% why would you NOT have 40/40 20/20 and all that stuff?
Did is the past tense form of Do. Along with the +20% Longer was just another suggestion and it would have more of a place to be abused. Which, I do admit so I don't know why you are complaining so much and throwing in random suggestions of your own.

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Once again Mesmers can handle shouts with a necromancer on the side. And I think you meant shouts can only be prevented.
Well ye i meant that. Try to get DA on your PD(tombs?), it's hard, you should be focussing on other things. + You cant interupt shields up at all.

And if there's a ward, aegis and DA its gonna be harder.


And sorry about making up the 40/40. It just made sense to me to add that if you want a 10% (not 20%:P)

Im just not looking forward to 10% longer shields up.

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What PvP Skill gives someone +80 armour?
Uh 60ar + 20 ar buff = 80ar
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Uh 60ar + 20 ar buff = 80ar
I suppose thats watch yourself? You can keep that up w/out the mod anyway.
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I suppose thats watch yourself? You can keep that up w/out the mod anyway.
Yes easily and you can cycle it with shields up as well. Shouts don't need any buffs.
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